To keep, to change, and to go, President Oakes

To keep, to change, and to go, President Oakes - Ep.1002 HOTM Shawn the Baptist (aka Shawn McCraney)

Transcripts: This is Heart of the Matter. I am Sean the Baptist, your host. Listen, every Sunday we do a verse-by-verse at 8 a.m. You can get to it by going to our channel there. But then at 10 a.m. we do a thing called Sunday Schooled. And for the next year we're going to be covering Christian mysticism, the pros and cons. The thing that we want to tell you is that Delaney has set up a way that you can text or submit online questions about what we're... talking about here on this show or in our Sunday Schooled or at any of our stuff. And you can ask us about our views or you can give us a criticism. Whatever the topic is, you can just text that in. And we're doing that on Sundays again during Sunday Schooled at 10 a.m. Mountain Time. Look at the graphics. And that is how we will cover your questions, comments and criticisms live last Saturday. Sean the Baptist in Salt Lake City was really a beautiful experience and appropriate. We will show a video of it and give you a report of how that went along with all the others that we're doing along the Wasatch Front in early November of this year. This is our first run down the Wasatch Front, and we're letting God do the promoting. Yes, we're announcing it here, but we aren't doing anything in social media or in the newspaper or any of that. And we are trusting Him to kind of plant the seeds He wants to plant. When we return next year in April, we're going to do another Wasatch Run. And at that time, we will promote it on social media and see what He does with it. We had a brother send a picture from what is called the 2026 G6 Interfaith Conference. held last week by the LDS Church. And there's a picture of President Dallin Oaks shaking hands with somebody who is obviously not LDS. And my thoughts, well, I have two, and they're conflicted. First of all, I think it's a good thing. In the name of peace, love, and understanding in the world, and I applaud any efforts by any religion or church that extends a hand to try to show forth fellowship amidst religious differences. That said, while good, the picture is not true. And therefore, if it's not true, it is of this world, and it's not of our Father. How so? First of all, it supports our model of there being a spirit of man that is the basis for all organized religion. in this time of the Gentiles. The Spirit of God governed it in Israel back then. That was religion then, organized religion. But in this time of the Gentiles, it's the Spirit of Man that is governing it. ...it to being a spirit of Christ in the world in individuals who love him in spirit and truth irrespective of religious affinity. So the spirit of man establishes co-ops, collectives, institutions of religion, governs them by their own inspirations, good and bad, and then the spirit of Christ is working on individuals from every... aspect of the world. And the fruit of that is his love manifested in different ways. where the Spirit of Christ is, there is zero manipulation. There is zero manicuring. But there is the Spirit of Christ, and there is absolute truthful transparency and genuine agape love defined by us as selfless, sacrificial, and unconditional, as evidenced by the Scripture. So where's the rub? Well, President Oaks extends his hand of friendship and unity to the world of divergent faith, as evidenced by that picture. But he simultaneously maintains that the LDS Church is the only true church on the face of the earth, and that unless all of these other people and faiths embrace the LDS system, the LDS priesthood and ordinances, none of them will be allowed in the presence of God. To me, that's duplicitous. And that is incongruent with the Spirit of Christ. So they simultaneously, while Elder Oaks is holding this man's hands and smiling, is sending an army of missionaries out into the world that shares a message, if they're being honest, shares a message that would tell the followers of the man in the picture that they have the wrong God. That's what they would tell them. And that their religion is tacitly wrong. And if they cite Joseph Smith's first vision, that they are absolutely not of him and that they will never get into the presence of God unless they convert to the LDS system of things. So the conference, while working at interfaith peace, which is good, is duplicitous because in the end it serves the LDS means of recruitment. Let's just be honest. Once the LDS understand the finished victorious work of Yeshua on earth on behalf of all human beings and is once they admit that the reigning of his spirit is what governs who is his and who is not from within the heart, and the LDS accepts these changes, the duplicitousness of things like this will disappear. And these conferences will be far closer to the spirit of our Father than the spirit of man governing the church today. Naturally, in the face of our recent shows, we've had some people say things like, do you really think that the LDS Church is going to respond to you and your invitation? You know, and I even had a longtime friend say to me the other day, quite coldly, in fact, I don't think the leaders of the church care one bit about you and your opinions, end quote. Well, I want to share something in the face of these comments so you can understand the place from where we come from. When I first learned Christ was in me in 1997 in the roadside experience, I was pretty much operating on fumes of faith and frankly had very little real faith and hope. And that's just being honest. In the biblical definition of real faith, there seems to be little of it in this world, relatively speaking. Most people merely claim that they have faith, but they rarely really try to live it, especially when things get tough, right? And I was one of those people. Absolutely, in 1997, coming out of Mormonism and 17 years of searching and having that experience, I was hanging by a very thin, worn thread that barely resembled what a disciple of our Father would or should look like. In 2004, while driving early in the morning to my first day of school of ministry, I asked God openly and sincerely from my heart, make me a man of faith. In fact, every day for two years on that very drive, I made the same exact request from my heart. Father, God, make me a man of faith. And he did. You know how? by teaching me what faith really looks like through fiery trials of all my presuppositional thinking. In time, I learned what feigned and phony and false faith looks like compared to the faith he seeks to develop in his sons and daughters. Along the way, I learned that he will take our claims of supposed faith and test the living heck out of it, sometimes taking us to the last thread of desperation. The last hope, the last scent in our pocketbook, the last breath of belief, leaving us hanging there against what seems like incomprehensible odds. And when there remains almost nothing on the table of hope or faith left, he appears. I've experienced it numerous times. Subjected myself to it because I want to see how it works. You can believe me or not, but that's my claim. So in the end, he graciously granted my daily requests. And today I am a man of some, I don't know how much, faith. I haven't moved any mountains recently. But what does it look like, at least in me, in how we live and how I see the world? I'm a man of faith in the impossible, the improbable, that is laughable and mockable to people around me. I am a man who, according to Soren Kierkegaard, has repeatedly elected to leap from the firm foundation of ground under my feet of logic and reason and my own suppositions to faith. A man that Levi Shestov says is of Jerusalem and not Athens, which is a faith that's based in human logic and wisdom and reason. It's a faith in the power of the biblical heavens rather than the arm of the flesh. Are we talking about faith in strategies and odds? Not at all. The odds are wholly against this kind of faith and are as bad in terms of possibility as a shepherd boy going to war against a giant warrior skilled in the art of warfare. It's as impossible as Gideon taking 300 men and going against 132,000 Midianites and winning. It's as impossible as Peter stepping from the security of the boat. and out onto the water. It's that illogical. And it's of a man born as a babe in a manger who ultimately saves the world from sin. That's the faith he's given me at this point in my life. Do we actually, we believe that what we're doing is possible? I do. I do. Not reasonably, certainly not financially, but abso-freaking-lutely through faith in our Father and His power and will alone. I don't think President Oaks or the Quorum of the Twelve or the vast wealth or stature of the church stands a chance against His will. And only when He chooses to act and never before does our faith stand. Are we willing to be mocked for him and our love for him and the LDS people and the world and what he has done entirely? But do we really believe the LDS will respond? We do. Someday. All power and glory to him alone. We had a few people write in response to our second petition to President Oaks last week. One said, this is Michael McGee 3951. What? Question mark. The Mormons are qualified to do what? Based on what? You lost me completely. I thought I read Jeremiah 31 correctly and don't need any man-made religion to play any role in the Yeshua future interactions. Something Joseph Smith wrote? I will listen again to be sure I heard right. Everything sounded so good up to that point. Mormons may be nice and rich, but what the F? I am out. Michael, God bless your heart and zeal for the truth. We get it, but you've missed some key factors that we've made plain, brother. We've made very plain. First of all, we agree entirely that what Jeremiah said and is repeated twice in Hebrews is real and true. But you forget those passages were speaking of religion. organized religion, especially in that day and in the age to come, when there would be no need for any intermediary. And we started to teach that began nearly 2000. We teach that started nearly 2000 years ago. We stand with you on that, Brother Michael. But we are not suggesting the Mormon religion is qualified or needed. That's where your ears shut off. We don't believe the Mormon church is necessary. We don't believe that Joseph Smith's writings were from God. We believe they were from the spirit of man that we're all entitled to when it comes to creating religion. We are saying that our father allowed the LDS church to exist. And if you want to criticize that, take it up with him because he has. and proffer and grow, and we think our Father allowed it to exist to use this material world as a means to reach and teach and serve others in the business of education, not through a religion or church. We've made that plain, Michael. See, just because we all have direct access to our Father through Christ does not mean that while we are still here in the flesh, people don't need to learn things or need help, that people don't need to be fed or to be organized or to administer humanitarian aid to those who have come to really know Him. You see, and this is how we are suggesting the LDS church, once it turns into an LDS business of education. can frankly be used, especially in the coming day, we think Revelation 21 through 22.5 is going to repeat here on earth spiritually in the cycles we see happening through the scripture. So again, try and listen to everything in context, Michael and those like you. We know it's difficult because in the Christian world, or I should say in the world of religion, There are thought-killing cliches or words that make certain people of certain faith stop thinking. In the evangelical world, those words are Mormon. It makes evangelicals stop thinking. Those words are Muslim. It makes them stop thinking. mystic. It makes them stop thinking and return to the vomit of dogma and not allow the spirit to move them to understand what God might be doing. That is why we are suggesting a massive revamp of the LDS organization from the top down based on one of Smith's own revelations found in Doctrine and Covenants 85, which they have in their scripture. We're not saying we agree with that scripture. We're using what they have in-house to show them these things could be happening. And instead of us starting a new offshoot, like so many people have done in the past, or a new or another unnecessary religion, which we're not, or a grassroots rebellion, which we're not, we are trying to take what is established and what God has allowed to use in this world. to help fortify other people through education and humanitarian aid through the administrative arm of the LDS, which we believe is superior to the governance of other brick and mortar religions. But we aren't saying it's the church. We're saying they need to change that. And that brings us to our first point, which we'll get to in just a minute. But I want to get to one final thing. We had this comment, which I really hope will help you guys see and understand us better. It reads, speaking of me, from Right2229, been such a sad decline. Talking about me. If you weren't so egocentric, you wouldn't need to always have new revelations on understanding the faith. Every few years, it's something new. We have our people ensconced in religious tradition make this claim against me. He's changing things all the time. So we want to dissect this first to the claim that I'm egocentric. I think it deserves a clarification. I am naturally super egocentric. Admittedly, I think my take on things in life are typically better than the common man. I think my taste in music and film and food and what to do with your life and how to live it is superior to most. I can't help that. I've always been that way. It's part of me being whatever I am. And so over the years, however, my father has taken this element of my personality, this condition, and he's used it for his purposes, changing the focus of my ego, instead of it being about this world, entirely along the way. So how this comes out is through an absolute indifference to what other people say about me. You can say I'm egotistical. I don't care any more than John the Baptist cared or Elijah cared. I don't care. And I do, I have personally worked very, very hard to establish my opinions. I'm not just throwing it at the wind. I haven't not done the work. So toward my own person, I know what I am. My father has shown me clearly what I am, a broken vessel of inability, really, in this world. And yes, critic, toward the world, I am almost entirely indifferent. If that is egoism in your mind, in mine, my father uses it. And that's part of our message. He uses you as you are. You don't have to feign becoming something you're not. If you're a this or a that or a this or a that, he's made you that way. He's allowed you to be that way. He just takes it and he turns it to use for his good. So we can get away from us all being homogenous in how we talk and speak and dress and think. Okay? You call that egocentrism. I say God has made us all talk and think and dress and speak in these different ways. And we are to let him use us as he's made us. The second thing is the line, if you weren't so egocentric, you wouldn't need to always have new revelations on understanding the faith. Every few years, it's something new. And it's here, from what you apparently see as the result of my egoism, I'm going to set you straight in your ignorant and naive assumptions. For starters, you fail to see that in... Almost every new realization that we've had, we build upon what we've said in the past. And that foundation is solely upon my father, Yeshua the Christ. If you go back and do a chronological assessment, a video assessment of everything I have said, it is pretty much consistent. Where I consistently weed out and cut away the dross of human tradition and narrow in closer and closer and closer to knowing Him. which he said when he walked the earth, is life eternal. Secondly, brother, you intimate that I have, that having new insights or what you call revelations is wrong or bad. That's built into what you're saying. And that is proof of an unfortunate religious mindset you've embraced. Instead of following the edicts of scripture, which say things like starting in the Old Testament in Proverbs 18, 15, the heart of the prudent acquires knowledge and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge. Brother, when you get new information in, it has to change the way the old information was seen. Do you disagree with that? Do you want a baby to stay a baby, a toddler to stay a toddler, a teen, a young adult? Do you not want maturity? Do we not want plants to grow so they can produce the fruit that we can eat? Or do we want them to stay the same always? It's a religious mindset that you've embraced because they don't want you to think. They want you to stay where you are, embrace what the men have said, and never grow. Because when you grow, you change. Also Proverbs 1.5, a wise man will hear and increase learning. Now that doesn't mean learning of the world. It means of our Father, which is life eternal. And a man of understanding will attain wise counsels. I have wise counsels around me. People say, he has nobody he answers to. That's absolutely not correct. I always have. They're just people I trust. And it's not some board that operates by politics and policies. Proverbs 9.9 says, give instruction to a wise man and he will be still wiser. That means you've grown. Teach a just man and he will increase in learning. And then Proverbs 4, 7 says, Wisdom is the principal thing, therefore get wisdom, and in all you're getting, get understanding. And you see, wisdom is defined, I think, through the scriptural narrative as knowledge applied. Then in the apostolic record, it constantly calls. Paul and Peter and James and John, they're always telling the believers of that day to renew their minds, which is equivalent to continuous spiritual development rather than remaining stagnant, milk-sucking babes who never change, evolve, or adapt. I mean, how do you explain 2 Peter 3.18 that says, but grow in the grace and knowledge of our... our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If you're growing in knowledge, you're changing in your opinion. Or Romans 12.2, do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Do you know what that word transform there means, is in the Greek? Do you know what the Greek word is for that? Metamorphou. Metamorphoo. And guess what that means, brother? A metamorphosis of your brain, of your thoughts, your opinions, and views. You're supposed to experience a metamorphosis of your brain as a believer. That means change, new developments, new insights. It's progressive, and it's evolving, and it's something that at least the LDS have always been about. But you stick-in-the-mud traditionalists cling to some old-fashioned thinking that is often not even pertinent and is often false. How about Philippians 1. 19? And this I pray, says Paul, that your love may abound still more and more in knowledge. and all discernment. Your love abounds more and more. How? In knowledge. You learn to love better and more through knowledge and discernment. I mean, I can't even believe that you have even made this statement publicly. You should be ashamed. And then, or what about Colossians 1.10, that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing him, being fruitful in every good work, and not just fruitful in every good work, but and increasing in the knowledge of God. Have you increased in the knowledge of God, or is he just a trinity? He's a trinity. He's just a trinity. I mean, the thinking's absolutely insane. And that's what you've bought into because you've let religious leaders who want you stupid and dumb to sit in the pews, pay your tithes, which are totally unbiblical, and belong to the club so that they can puppeteer you. Finally, Scripture explicitly warns against staying in a state of spiritual infancy and encourages believers to press onto deeper, more mature insights. Listen to what the writer of Hebrews actually says. You should read verse 1-3. It'll blow your mind of chapter 6. But this is verse 1 says, Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, Let us go on to perfection, teleates, which is a perfect or complete understanding. That only comes by taking something in, throwing out the dross, replacing it with something new. It can't happen if you remain a child in thought. How about when Peter Paul said, brethren, 1 Corinthians 14, do not be children in understanding. However, in malice be babes, but in understanding be mature. Your understanding has to change and grow. I could go on and on and cite Paul talking about understanding the mysteries and all kinds of passages that speak more about that than rebirth or anything else. But, you know, I want to end with this one. It's from Ephesians 3.14. And you think about this. For this reason, Paul says, I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, that according to the riches of his glory, he might grant you to be strengthened with might through his spirit in the inner man. We're not talking about working out here. We're not talking about gaining wealth. We're talking about the development of the inner man and that Christ may dwell in your hearts. The LDS say Christ can't dwell in your hearts. That's a lie. We need to fix these things. That Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith that you being rooted and grounded in love may, listen, have power to comprehend. Okay, ready? What does he want you to comprehend? With all the saints, what is the breadth and the length and the height and the depth and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge. that you may be filled with all the fullness of God. Do you think that understanding those dimensions comes by just clinging on to some ridiculous tradition or teaching of man? Do you think you're pleasing God as his child or son or daughter by just staying stagnant and sucking at the bottle of human thinking? And so I ask you, ignorant critic, do you comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge that you may be filled with all the fullness of God? I suspect no. Because you do what most milk-lapping believers do. You attack with certainty what you cannot yourself understand because you haven't put the work in. You haven't sought to know. You've just lazily laid back like a little baby and said, feed me, feed me. Hell, hell, burning fire, God angry. It's ridiculous. You're ridiculous. And if you fit that model, carry on. I think God loves you the same. I just don't think he's going to reward you like you think he will. Well, it's been three weeks since we did our first outreach to President Oaks. Still radio silence. I know you're thinking, well, of course. So tonight we publicly lay out some more insights we believe are necessary for you, President Oaks, to steady the arc of the church today. in preparation for it to be used the way our Father wants it to be used. In Matthew chapter 9, Yeshua was confronted by the disciples of John. It was at a party, I think, that Levi held. Matthew held, and they asked him, why do we and the Pharisees fast often, but thy disciples fast not? And Yeshua said to them, can the children of the bride chamber mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? But the days will come when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then they shall fast. The master teacher then gives them two examples of the principles we are operating off as we appeal to the LDS church. In explaining why his disciples didn't fast like John the Baptist or the Pharisees, Yeshua added, No man puts a piece of new cloth into an old garment. For that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent tear is made worse. In other words, you, President Oaks, have a 200-year-old religious institution in front of you, and if you try to bring in new fabric to steady the ark or mend the tares, it probably isn't going to work. From a worldly sense, Machiavelli, in his book The Prince, discovered this too and gave advice in a worldly sense for governments. Yeshua then gives another example, very similar, and he says, Neither do men put new wine into old bottles, else the bottles break and the wine runs out, and the bottles perish. But they put new wine into new bottles, and both... preserved. Operating off this wisdom, we maintain in an effort to both stabilize the LDS institution and ready it for the King to use in the coming reclamation and spirit arrival of the bride to earth again, our new wine must be introduced to an entirely revamped LDS organization for them to rightly integrate and survive each other. Tough sell, right? But again, we believe all things are possible when our Father is involved. We want to use tonight's outreach to President Oaks to generally lay out what must happen for the new wine of our Father to fill what must be the new LDS bottle of it becoming what it should become. And as we said last week, the first thing is, ready? The LDS Church must be willing to shift from being or calling itself a religion to being what it really is, a business. Now, this is not to suggest, President Oaks, that you lose all the ideas about God and man in the process that you guys have come up with through the spirit of man over the years. We maintain that many of the things Joseph Smith Jr. said were dead on inaccurate, but not all of them. As Jeremiah 31, 31, 34 describes, since the finished work of our father on this earth, religion should have died brick and mortar a long time ago. As God said through the prophet, behold, the days come, saith Yehovah, that I will make a new covenant. That's testament. I will make a new testament with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah. Now we know that Gentiles are adopted into that house by faith. So he's talking about the kingdom. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in that day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, which my covenant they broke, although I was a husband unto them, saith Yehovah. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days, saith Yehovah, I will put my law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and will be their God and they shall be my people and they shall teach no more every man his neighbor. every man his brother, saying, Know Yehovah, for they shall all know me. From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith Yehovah, for I will forgive their iniquity and will remember their sin no more. So first, you're going to have to leave the business of religion, President Oaks. Can you strum up that leadership within yourself? Or is it going to take somebody smarter and younger and more attuned to the spirit to see the forest for the trees? This will be one of the hardest shifts in our estimation, most of your members, to understand. So a great deal of time explaining this will be necessary in the re-education of the faithful. There will be rejection, but if and when the changes come from you and the brethren at the top, the odds of the change standing stand a much greater chance of what my father desires. Because many religious aspects of Brother Joseph's synergistic theological imaginations from the spirit of man must be changed or seen for what they are, we see the following recalibrations from religious to business as also necessary for the instituted once-righted, specifically that you go from a futurist eschatology where you call yourselves latter-day saints to a fulfilled eschatology that's so necessary that you go from demanded objective religious teachings to subjective relationships all people have between themselves and their maker. that you go from priesthood and priesthood offices to be spiritually active in the lives of all believers in our only high priest, meaning he is the priesthood, he is the high priest. There's a priesthood of all believers in that realm, not men holding a false priesthood. Next week, we're going to address the priesthood as our first topic. Then titles like prophet, apostles, elders, deacons, teachers, priests, yada, yada, yada should become president and CEO, board of directors, senior management, etc. Ordinations should become hirings, appointments, and advancements in the corporation. Temples and temple work should become contemplation centers for all people of faith to freely enjoy. Muslims, Hindus, that you become a city set on a hill for all faiths to come and enjoy contemplation with their God. The three-fold mission of the church should go from proclaiming the gospel, perfecting the saints, and redeeming the dead, to perhaps, spitballing here, a three-fold mission of the business focused on education of the Yeshua principles, equipping people for life here, and of serving and supporting the poor and indigent and people who need help. The Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price should be discontinued as the product of a former age and having no application any longer. The Book of Mormon should be seen as a work of inspired fiction similar to Pilgrim's Progress or some other great book, Les Miserables. All iconography of the Mormon Church should be replaced by the Yeshuan Day Star on their educational edifices. Tithes should become freewill donations at best. and things like that. Additionally, there would be an admitted continuation of the LDS models that are profitable in this world and relative to business of religion, so to speak. The organization and administration of your institution is superior to others. That should continue. In the business model, corporate governance should continue. Youth activities, your youth program is par excellence. That should continue for people of all people of faith. Wisdom teachings should be encouraged without law. That means the word of wisdom can be shown as being helpful, but not mandated, because when law is mandated, you become judgmental idiots. Social involvement and volunteerism promoted by the LDS Church in the community is a really great thing. That should be part of the business model. And true support of marriage and family in the world should continue, but not with the trappings the LDS have used under the auspices of religion. Perhaps most importantly, however, there would need to be an entire re-education of the current members in theology, doctrine, and practice, including all of the following as a means to equip current members and the world at large with a recalibrated, evolved understanding of Brother Smith's Spirit of Man inspirations while adjusting many of the Christian traditions along the way. The topics include, we're going to give you three graphics, but aren't limited to these topics here. The ontology of God. The creation account. Divine counsel. Premortal existence. Adam and Eve. Free will. The two trees. The garden. Isaac and Jacob. The nation of Israel. Isaac and Jacob twice. And the nation of Israel twice. Division of God and man. I made this graphic so it stands to reason. Spirit of man. Spirit of God. Plural marriage. The flood. Melchi Zadok. We'll talk about him next week. Tithes. Abraham and Sarai, Hagar. There's Isaac and Jacob again. And the nation of Israel thrice. Egypt, Joseph, the name of God. I mean, let's talk about that. Moses, Malachi, the intertestamentary period. The ten words, the Sinai marriage. priesthood. And then, you know, we will address John the Baptist in the second one, the great and dreadful day, Yeshua, his ontology and identity relative to what the LDS and Smith's vision said versus the Trinity and other forms, early life teachings of Christ and his audience, his life and works, the bride, his death and his resurrection, his ascension, the day of Pentecost, the Holy Spirit 2.0. 2.0. We can prove it. The apostles, his return, sin, Satan, hell, death, kingdoms, then and now, and the afterlife. And finally, we should revamp and recover the view on tithes, Sabbath days, the temples and tabernacles. idolatry and adultery, King David, the Assyrian and Babylonian bondage, our resurrection and what it really looks like as opposed to what the doctrines of the church teach, the time of the Gentiles, what the commandments truly are, the import of two, progression and evolution, worthiness, works, righteousness, the fruit of the spirit, creations, children, sons and daughters, and the differences between them, the four L's, the four traits, existence, preceding Platonic essence, convergence, the meeting of life, subjective versus objective faith, philosophical considerations, psychological considerations, mystical considerations. All of these have been addressed in our decades-long research where we challenged everything, tested it all, and leave it for you to do the same. All of it can be searched through our exclusive fenced AI model at yeshuans.com or by doing an exhaustive search through our vast library of... content next week we are going to take these topics one by one and explain in detail while some things in the church president oaks should stay some should change and some should be utterly done away with and next week we're going to start with the what's and whys of priesthood tune in and you'll learn something i bet you probably didn't know before i have So we had an entire wrap-up scheduled for this show right now, but this morning we were led to go in a different direction. Before we go there, remember, we believe that all revelations, realizations about the faith and its practice on earth come from the spirit of man, mine included. What we are about to share is no exception, but we're going to push the envelope a little bit to take some of you into a place maybe you hadn't considered before. Also remember our stance that the Spirit of Christ is operational and seen in the fruit of His love, agape love, in individuals, irrespective of what man and man say about religion. That said, we want to offer a spirit of man prophecy, if you will, from my mind and heart to yours. And Delaney's, because she's vetted this. It's subject to your interpretation, not mine. We present it as something that speaks in a new way, in an evolved and progressed way in the world today, and not just through a sermon. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear may understand the message immediately. Others may see the truth later. But we're going to end with a video prophecy for you to consider. There's an artistic language in it. You can read the words as they come up. There's a lyrical meaning in it. There is spiritual significance in the title of the song, which is High Hopes. There's an overarching theme of the presentation audibly and visually, artistically, in the single reference of the division bell. And in our belief that something like this, for some, will say more than in a three-hour sermon. See, we submit that we are headed into an age, if it hasn't already happened, of the division bell ringing. We believe that it is an iteration of Amos 8, 11 through 13, which once had application to Israel, and we believe has a revamped application in the time of the Gentiles. This is what Amos said. Behold, the days are coming, and that's what we suggest, says the Lord God, when I will send a famine on the land. Not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of Yehovah. Then shall wander from sea to sea and from north to east. They shall run to and fro to seek the word of Yehovah, but shall not find it. We maintain that this famine in a spiritual sense described by Amos in that day will be the fading of the Word of God, Christ our Father, in the hearts of all humankind. We believe there's going to be a distinct division bell, where people of faith will have Him strongly in their hearts, people of non-faith, once the division bell sounds, will begin to fade in their hope, and that the fallout from that will be significant. We wonder if the hearts of faithless souls will culminate in a repeated but spiritual great and dreadful day which fell on Israel materially 2,000 years ago and may be falling on the world again spiritually as the Revelation 21 -22-5 cycle begins to reappear. We pray that those with ears to hear will understand the extremely obtuse message from this artistic spirit of man prophecy created by Pink Floyd decades ago. Good night.